Emma Fishwick 2018

Emma Fishwick makes dance, text and image. I find her incredibly inspiring and this discussion wanders through both our interests around considering culture, body, language, paradigm and more.


we talk around:

  • writing an exegesis
  • not dreaming
  • fringe ideas
  • getting better at thinking in words
  • interface
  • desires
  • scrutiny
  • going to a pistol range
  • the unknown
  • codification for the sake of legibility at the expense of nuance
  • thinking (or not) about the audience
  • when it’s not fun
  • landscapes
  • one day maybe being held in esteem
  • perspective


more info on emma’s work here:


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Matt Cornell is based in the Asia-Pacific region and grew up in Darwin, on Larrakia land. He works through dance, choreography, sound, photography, and discussion to question the arbitrary configuration of systems, and is passionate about overcoming cognitive bias... to ask better questions… to dissolve malignant social narratives.

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